St. Tikhon's Pilgrimage '07
starts next Friday, May 25, in South Canaan, Pennsylvania, just east of Scranton. Highly recommended for all ethnicities/jurisdictions!
(FYI, about that Anointing Service on Monday: Orthodox consider that a Mystery ["sacrament"], so I'm not sure non-Orthodox should approach for anointing. Then again, St. John of San Francisco insisted on anointing Timothy Ware before his conversion.... Maybe you should ask in advance to make sure! I didn't approach five years ago: could I have?)
(FYI, about that Anointing Service on Monday: Orthodox consider that a Mystery ["sacrament"], so I'm not sure non-Orthodox should approach for anointing. Then again, St. John of San Francisco insisted on anointing Timothy Ware before his conversion.... Maybe you should ask in advance to make sure! I didn't approach five years ago: could I have?)
Labels: Orthodoxy
posted by me at 12:55 PM
6 Comments:
I thought that anointing was ok if you were non-Orthodox
I haven't been christmated yet, but my priest always encourages me to come up whenever there is an anointing - he thinks it necessary for my continued healing from depression.
Don't know specifically what the church in America teaches, but I am under the impression it's ok...
but like you said, it's best to check if unsure :)
love Rachel xoxo
Lucky you! :)
In all seriousness, it may be OK here too, depending on the jurisdiction. I should've asked, 'cause I could sure use it for my own health issues, then (5 years ago) as now! But I was a little timid around Orthodox at that time. (Me, timid?!!!) I remember at my first Pascha-visit *ten* years ago, I *knew* Antidoron (blessed bread, not Communion) was OK for non-Orthodox at that parish...but still felt a little like I was gonna get struck by lightning!!! (That's not the *good* kind of Uncreated Light!!)
(For others' info, I believe some jurisdictions *do* reserve antidoron only for Orthodox. Best to check with somebody at the churches you visit - even laity might know, or greeters. I can say for certain that The OCA and Antiochian Archdiocese of America do offer it to non-Orthodox, however. Some parishes even insist, and make it hard to say No Thanks if you need to for some reason like IBS!)
(Another FYI: Some parishes of the Russian tradition may offer unconsecrated wine and warm water, with antidoron. I believe they call this zapifka or something like that. The wine is intended to help wash down Communion bread so it's not left stuck in your mouth or teeth. Sometimes people drink a few sips right down, but sometimes they dip their antidoron in it instead: "sippers" vs. "dippers." FYI!)
NB: Zapifka may also be offered in Russian-influenced parishes. Some Antiochian convert/mission parishes draw somewhat from the Russian tradition.
that's interesting, I didn't know about the zapifka.
my first time at an Orthodox church I was sitting next to 2 ladies, only one took communion, and she brought both of us back some antidoron- I had no idea what it was, but figured if she had offered, it was ok for me to eat it!
now I know! other members of the choir always bring some back for me after communion which is nice- it's a good way to offer fellowship to new people.
God Bless
love Rachel xoxo
Greetings in the Lord!
It might be acceptable to be anointed with holy oil if your not Orthodox.
However it is by no means acceptable for non-Orthodox to be anointed with Holy Unction oil, since this a sacrament in Orthodoxy.
God bless you!
Thanks for visiting, Andrew!
How can one tell which is involved as you mention, the holy oil or the Holy Unction oil?
Leo Peter
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